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Saving Fixed Points on submit.
jamin
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1218
Best Total: 27m 9s
Posted - 2006.06.28 03:56:56
Hi I thought that a discussion that was begun in Yes, I know. (Tuesday, 27th June 2006) warranted it's own thread.

It appears that a number of us have the same problem - we're so excited to finish a puzzle, that we don't check our last few moves with the same rigour that we usually do.  By that stage in a game, you're joining the loop ends together and it is easy to overlook the fact that you're putting 3 lines around a 2, or creating two loops.

This is especially a killer on the big weekend puzzles.

Foilman, would it be possible to save us from ourselves and retain fixed point information after an incorrect submission so that we need only look at fixing our error back to the last fix point rather than doing the puzzle over, or trying to fix it like a Kwontom Wrong?
procrastinator
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1083
Best Total: 12m 56s
Posted - 2006.06.28 06:03:22
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamin

Foilman, would it be possible to save us from ourselves and retain fixed point information after an incorrect submission

That would mean more overhead (network and javascript) and a longer time to load up the puzzle after a "not done yet" - with the simplest implementation, it would slow down even normal "not done yet"s. It would be bad if the general case slowed down just to speed up the rarer one.
jamin
Kwon-Tom Obsessive
Puzzles: 1218
Best Total: 27m 9s
Posted - 2006.06.28 07:34:30
Quote:
Originally Posted by procrastinator

...it would slow down even normal "not done yet"s. It would be bad if the general case slowed down just to speed up the rarer one.

I dunno... I would have thought that the pros that don't need fixed points (especially on a big puzzle) would get less "Not Done Yets" than those that do. Which is the rare case and which is the general? More people would need to weigh in to answer that, but I've been wondering about this for a while and wasn't going to say anything until I saw 4 other people complain in the same post about problems with fixing mistakes.
foilman
Kwon-Tom Admin
Puzzles: 1720
Best Total: 24m 8s
Posted - 2006.06.28 08:16:09
Actually it wouldn't add any overhead to save that information... but I probably won't do it! The fix position is there to help you, but you've still got to be careful not to go wrong when using it... if you submit, then you're saying "i'm done here's my solution" and you've got to be pretty sure you've got it right by then!! Kwon-Tom Wrong was born out of the situation where you finish but something isn't quite right... so practise them, and you'll get better at retrieving the correct solution from your mistakes...

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